Thursday, June 01, 2006

The Problem with SSP

I was asked to write up some thoughts on Space Solar Power, so here they are - stream of conscious and all that. I wrote this even though the last time I had the gall to say such things (in Space News) i was excoriated by members of alt.space for attacking one of the holy grails of space development.

In the sure to be immortalised words of our current War President - "Bring 'em on!"
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SSP advocates point to the ability geostationary based SSP stations to provide clean abundant energy by harnessing solar power and retransmitting to Earth in the form of microwave energy, to be converted at ground-based stations into cheap energy for terrestrial uses.

There are a large number of factors which, at this time, call into question the feasibility of SSP - these can be grouped into two primary categories: economic and technological.

As I am not an engineer by trade, i will refrain from getting into power efficiency, conversion ratios, or other factors which others have pointed to when comparing SSP to existing terrestrial-based power systems (such as nuclear and wind). These tradeoffs in efficiency and the economics of the power generated by SSP vis a vis terrestrial means are fairly well argued out by others. There is one glaring unknown which also forms the basis for my position against the viability of SSP at this point in time.

Simply put - with today's space technology, we are supremely unprepared for the task of building a SSP generating station. Current designs that have been put out to the masses call for a facility at geostationary orbit which is many times the size & mass of the ISS. There are significant major problems that immediately come to mind:

1) we've never designed and built even a prototype SSP. So even if we wanted to, we couldn't just "build" one today from scratch without first going through numerous teething pains designing, building, and testing prototypes until we finally had it working correctly. And that includes building and testing IN SPACE, not just on the ground.

2) which leads to the second issue - R&D and Operations are two very different things. These are often confused by true believers, or the difference is knowingly trivialised as "just an engineering problem". But work I did studying commercialisation of ISS highlights the same problem. The ISS was touted as a great R&D facility - as was the Wake Shield Facility before it. However, what was never examined was the practicality of production of a material that was first discovered during zero-G research. A practical example: WSF demonstrated that it was possible to create an ultra-pure vacuum environment, which could be used for making better raw materials for computer chips. However, there is a huge gap between making a few test raw material articles in basic R&D and building a zero-G chip fabrication facility in space...

3) so let's assume for a moment that we can actually design and fly a few prototype power stations (big assumption). There do not exist today any launch vehicles capable of lifting a complete item to GEO that is as large or larger than ISS. Which means that we'd need MANY large launch vehicles (likely hundreds) to put the components of this hypothetical SSP into GEO. Then we'd have to assemble it. Except that this assembly would have to be automated, as the last time we had an astronaut at GEO or beyond was in 1972. Which means developing brand new capabilities, as the assembly and ongoing construction of ISS continues to demonstrate just how difficult it is to build a relatively small facility only a couple hundred miles up.

Some day, when we have solved the single most important aspect that is critical to all long term space development - that is cheap, realiable, reusable, access to space (under $100/lb to orbit), THEN things like SSP (and space elevators, and L5 colonies, and insert your favourite space development idea here) will be possible. But for now, it is just another bit of science fiction -- because of economics and existing engineering know how.

10 Comments:

Blogger TomsRants said...

I feel your pain. About 3 years ago, an engineer also affiliated with the NSS chapter here in NY wanted to pitch me his "radically cheaper" method of bootstrapping SSP. I had to sign an NDA and read his business plan. To be fair, his idea did appear to lop a zero from previous cost estimates of SSP systems.

Never mind that there were at least 10 pieces of unobtainium in his plan, including bootstrapping methods involving robotic self-assembly, and the ubiquitous Shuttle External Tank, which can't be recycled for ANYTHING (get over it!)...

...but even this "radical" new plan couldn't deliver power for less than 20 cents/kW, and was the only way to deliver a value proposition for even a forlorn hope of paying back investors. A little web searching determined that I could get off-peak electricity from the grid in NM for 4.8 cents/kW. Thus SSP is still not competitive with terrestrial-based systems, by as much as a factor of four.

Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:33:00 AM  
Blogger TomsRants said...

Besides, if we accidentally "cook" another Afghan wedding party, but this time with a badly-aimed microwave beam, we're going to start wearing out our welcome over there...

Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:00:00 PM  
Blogger Shubber Ali said...

First you said:
About the only way you can make SSP work is by using small, almost 'man portable' power sats taken up as secondary payloads to provide emergency power to very remote places like Siberia or Antarctica where the winter sun isn't very useful.

Then you said:
I didn't say it would work, just worth trying out as a small scale experiment.

So it won't work on a large scale, and it may not work on a small scale (but it's worth testing for a few hundred millions or perhaps billions of dollars?)

Thank you for reinforcing my original point.

Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:26:00 PM  
Blogger telex said...

yes, we havent flown a single tech demonstrator or experiment geared towards solving the technological unknowns with SSPs. my question is, why ? there is that big fat government space agency who is supposed to be pushing the technological envelope and bringing the future closer, why have they done exactly squat in this area ?
Of course SSP would be silly for private investments with current state of affairs, but thats exactly why we have government R&D. But ask either NASA or DOD what have they done in this area ...

BTW, huge GEO powerstations on multiple acre scales is not the only way. Google "Mitsubishi Solarbird". I think they have the right idea, but timing might not be perfect still

Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:27:00 PM  
Blogger telex said...

*DOE not DOD of course, but the point remains the same.
Just as fusion, SSP stands a slim chance of becoming the clean energy source of the future, i think it deserves et least fraction of the efforts going into fusion research.

Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:36:00 PM  
Blogger Shubber Ali said...

My point was that it shouldn't cost billions or even millions to test it out at the man portable level.

So you're saying that it can be done for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars? Well, if it's such a cheap and valuable thing to do, I wonder why it hasn't been done yet?

I'm imagining someone heading up to either ISS

Not cheap. Cost per launch (STS) is $500m or so, and if you're going as a private astronaut still over $10m even if you don't pay retail. And i don't believe you're allowed to bring up a test space article with you to the ISS to "try out" a power generation device. The safety people are kind of squirrelly that way.

or Bigelow's hab

doesn't exist yet.

and carrying a small SSP testbed with them. Or even someone hitching a ride on JAXA's free small sat launch and testing it out with a slightly modified cubesat.

anyone building one of these that you know of? what about the ground segment?

There are ways to prove bits and pieces of the idea at very low costs

you keep saying that, but show me some actual substantiated numbers

Just as they can't prove it will work, you can't prove it won't.


I don't have to prove it won't work. It's up to those making claims of a great new technology to demonstrate said technology, not for the skeptic to "disprove" it.

Friday, June 02, 2006 8:13:00 PM  
Blogger telex said...

In spirit of helping people do their own research, here are a couple links on what is actually happening in microwave power transmission technology:

Microwave Power Transmission activities in the world


SSPS Reseach in Japan

note that most of the activities in this century are conducted in japan or europe.

Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:11:00 AM  
Blogger telex said...

Here is one more recent doc describing recent relevant activities in the world:
http://www.ursi.org/WP/White_papers.htm

Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:37:00 AM  
Blogger telex said...

http://www.energypulse.net/centers/article/article_display.cfm?a_id=1285

Can we really build SSP now? No company(s) or government agency is chartered or capable of assuming the immense financial risk of initiating construction of an SSPS. It would be like asking a company to build Hoover Dam, the Transcontinental Railroad or the Interstate system without Federal assistance. There are simply too many engineering, financial, regulatory and managerial risks for any group to undertake SSP today

America has faced just such challenges before ... There is a tried and true vehicle, however that could initiate SSP construction today, just as it did in surmounting all those previous challenges. The key is chartering a public/private Congressionally chartered corporation, like Comsat Corp., which was chartered in 1962 to respond to the Russian Sputnik threat - the first communications satellite. It would have all the requisite advantages provided to Comsat. Comsat Corp. opened space to the diverse $100 Billion per year communications satellite business we have today.

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:49:00 AM  
Blogger Shubber Ali said...

It would be like asking a company to build Hoover Dam, the Transcontinental Railroad or the Interstate system without Federal assistance. There are simply too many engineering, financial, regulatory and managerial risks for any group to undertake SSP today

America has faced just such challenges before ... There is a tried and true vehicle, however that could initiate SSP construction today, just as it did in surmounting all those previous challenges. The key is chartering a public/private Congressionally chartered corporation, like Comsat Corp.


No, America hasn't. Building the Hoover dam was a known engineering challenge, that had financial constraints solved by having the Federal government step in.

We have NEVER, i repeat, NEVER assembled ANYTHING at GEO that is even a meaningful fraction of the size of a SSPS facility. Our current launch capabilities on Earth are not at all scaled for such a feat. And even if by some miracle of a modern-day manhattan project we did manage to build a single SSPS facility, the cost of that electricity would be so ridiculously high so as to be totally uneconomical.

But never mind all that. Space Solar Power is COOL.

Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:15:00 AM  

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